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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Lars Schneider" <larsxschneider@gmail.com>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>, git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] travis-ci: disable GIT_TEST_HTTPD for macOS
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:43:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161110214345.cau5i4eybqdv74k3@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq1syj6mvq.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 01:33:29PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > IMHO, the value in the http tests is not testing the server side, but
> > the client side. Without being able to set up a dummy HTTP server, we do
> > not have any way to exercise the client side of git-over-http at all.
> > And people on macOS _do_ use that. :)
> 
> Amen to that.
> 
> I however do not know what the universally available simplest dummy
> HTTP server would be.  There probably are better alternative than
> Apache with distro-customized ways of configuration that we have to
> adjust.  
> 
> A solution around HTTP::Server::Simple sounds attractive but is it
> a realistic alternative or too much effort required?  I dunno.

I'm less concerned about the amount of effort (though I agree it may be
a blocker) than about the fact that it may not behave similarly to real
servers. We have had real bugs and surprises with the way that various
web servers implement things. A few that come to mind are:

  1. Buffering/deadlock issues between the webserver and the CGI (this
     was an issue with Apache, but I don't know about other servers).

  2. The handling of CONTENT_LENGTH with chunked-encoding (this is still
     an issue with IIS).

  3. What happens when you ask for "foo.git/info/refs" and "foo.git" is
     a bundle file (Apache gives you a 404, lighttpd serves the bundle).

Ideally we'd test against a lot of different webservers, but that's
expensive (in CPU, but also in developer time). But I'd guess that
Apache is at least more representative than HTTP::Server::Simple of real
servers in the wild.

So if we had a simple fallback in addition to Apache, I'd be OK with
that. But we still have a problem that (say) people on MacOS would never
actually test against Apache, because it's not supported there.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-10 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-17  0:25 [PATCH v1 0/2] Fix default macOS build locally and on Travis CI larsxschneider
2016-10-17  0:25 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] config.mak.in: set NO_OPENSSL and APPLE_COMMON_CRYPTO for macOS >10.11 larsxschneider
2016-10-17  9:50   ` Jeff King
2016-11-06 19:35     ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-07 17:26       ` Jeff King
2016-11-07 17:36         ` Paul Smith
2016-11-07 17:46           ` Jeff King
2016-11-07 17:49             ` Paul Smith
2016-11-09  8:18         ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-11-09  9:29           ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-09 10:51             ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-11-10 11:13               ` [PATCH v2] Makefile: set NO_OPENSSL on macOS by default larsxschneider
2016-10-17  0:25 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] travis-ci: disable GIT_TEST_HTTPD for macOS larsxschneider
2016-11-06 21:42   ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-07 21:20     ` Jeff King
2016-11-10 11:07       ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-10 16:10         ` Jeff King
2016-11-10 21:33           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-10 21:43             ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-11-10 21:49               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-10 21:54                 ` Jeff King
2016-11-11  8:22           ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-11  8:47             ` Jeff King
2016-11-11  9:13               ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-11  9:28                 ` Jeff King
2016-11-15 12:07             ` Heiko Voigt
2016-11-15 14:18               ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-15 15:31               ` Jeff King
2016-11-16 14:39                 ` Heiko Voigt
2016-11-16 20:01                   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-11-09 23:39 ` [PATCH v1 0/2] Fix default macOS build locally and on Travis CI Junio C Hamano
2016-11-10  6:41   ` Torsten Bögershausen
2016-11-10 11:19   ` Lars Schneider
2016-11-10 21:34     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-11  9:01       ` Lars Schneider

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