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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Cc: Brandon Williams <bmwill@google.com>,
	Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Blake Burkhart <bburky@bburky.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] transport: add core.allowProtocol config option
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 14:00:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161103180017.x2hjb5wm2u6isajm@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kbvs+ryGRjCkHYO=3iNK4tPPhBhYjRMZaH7rP0QMrULhg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 10:39:35AM -0700, Stefan Beller wrote:

> >>   protocol.X.allow = always | user | never
> >
> > It sounds like there is interest for this sort of behavior, it would
> > definitely require a larger change than what I initially proposed.  One
> > problem I see though is that with this we have support for both a
> > blacklist and a whitelist.  Which wins?
> 
> For the submodule operations we'll use a whitelist, because we want to
> provide security and for the other case we can offer a blacklist as a bandaid.
> 
> My opinion on blacklists is roughly aligned with e.g. :
> https://blog.codinghorror.com/blacklists-dont-work/
> http://blog.deepinstinct.com/2016/02/04/when-blacklists-dont-really-work/
> 
> So IMHO we could drop the "never" and substitute it with a "warn" or
> "ask-user", such that this configuration becomes a white list for both cases:
> 
>      protocol.X.allow = always | user | warn

I don't think blacklists work in the general case, because they grow out
of date and fail-open. But you want to have _some_ blacklisting
mechanism, in order override a decision of the whitelist.

For instance, the default submodule whitelist would probably include
https and ssh. But if I'm cloning potentially malicious repos and I
don't ever want them to trigger ssh (because I don't want them to use my
ssh keys, whereas I have explicitly set up my credentials such that http
is safe to use), I would want to be able to do:

  git config protocol.ssh.allow never

(or "git -c", or whatever).

True, a whitelist is safer. If we add a new "foo" protocol that also
looks at your ssh keys, you're screwed. And that's why I designed it as
a pure-whitelist in the first place. But it comes at the price of
convenience, because you have to manually add each new innocent protocol
to the whitelist.

> So you're suggesting that setting it to "never" doesn't have any effect
> except for cluttering the config file?
> I don't think we should do that; each setting should have an impact.
> So maybe the "never" would be there to disallow protocols of the hardcoded
> white list (e.g. http)

Exactly.

> > I don't know if I'm sold on a 'user' state just yet, perhaps that's just
> > because I view a whitelist or blacklist as well black and white and
> > having this user state adds in a gray area.
> 
> Well the "user" state is to differentiate between the
> * "I consciously typed `git clone ...` (and e.g. I know what happens as
>   I know the server admin and they are trustworthy.)
> * a repository contains a possible hostile .gitmodules file such
>   that I am not aware of the network connection.

Right. I had assumed that we would tell the difference between those
automatically (by seeing if we got the URL on the command line), but
things like "go get" show that the context is often before git is even
called.

-Peff

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-03 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-02 22:20 [PATCH] transport: add core.allowProtocol config option Brandon Williams
2016-11-02 22:41 ` Stefan Beller
2016-11-02 22:47   ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-02 23:05 ` Jeff King
2016-11-02 23:08   ` Jeff King
2016-11-02 23:34     ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-02 23:33   ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-02 23:46     ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03  0:08       ` Jeff King
2016-11-03  0:22 ` Jonathan Nieder
2016-11-03  0:41   ` Blake Burkhart
2016-11-03  2:44   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-03 14:38   ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 17:25     ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03 17:39       ` Stefan Beller
2016-11-03 17:51         ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03 18:02           ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 18:08             ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03 18:00         ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-11-03 17:53       ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 18:19         ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03 18:25           ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 18:24         ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 18:45           ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03 18:50             ` Jeff King
2016-11-03 18:56               ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-03  0:50 ` [PATCH v2] " Brandon Williams
2016-11-04 20:55 ` [PATCH v3] transport: add protocol policy " Brandon Williams
2016-11-04 20:58   ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-04 21:35     ` Stefan Beller
2016-11-04 23:09       ` Jeff King
2016-11-05  0:18         ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-04 22:38   ` Stefan Beller
2016-11-07 18:14     ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-04 23:06   ` Jeff King
2016-11-07 19:17     ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 19:35   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 19:35     ` [PATCH v4 2/2] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 20:44       ` Jeff King
2016-11-07 21:02         ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 20:26     ` [PATCH v4 1/2] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Jeff King
2016-11-07 20:40       ` Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 20:48         ` Jeff King
2016-11-08  3:32           ` Jacob Keller
2016-11-08 20:52             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-11-07 21:51     ` [PATCH v5 " Brandon Williams
2016-11-07 21:51       ` [PATCH v5 2/2] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-11-08 22:04         ` Jeff King
2016-11-08 22:05           ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:44       ` [PATCH v6 0/4] transport protocol policy configuration Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:44         ` [PATCH v6 1/4] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:44         ` [PATCH v6 2/4] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:44         ` [PATCH v6 3/4] http: always warn if libcurl version is too old Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:44         ` [PATCH v6 4/4] transport: check if protocol can be used on a redirect Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:48           ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:49             ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 19:50           ` Jeff King
2016-12-01 19:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-01 19:59               ` Jeff King
2016-12-01 20:01                 ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 20:25         ` [PATCH v7 0/4] transport protocol policy configuration Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 20:25           ` [PATCH v7 1/4] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 20:25           ` [PATCH v7 2/4] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 20:25           ` [PATCH v7 3/4] http: always warn if libcurl version is too old Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 20:25           ` [PATCH v7 4/4] transport: add from_user parameter to is_transport_allowed Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 21:40             ` Jeff King
2016-12-01 22:25               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-01 23:07               ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 23:26                 ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:13                   ` Jeff King
2016-12-02 17:33                     ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-01 23:34                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-01 23:58                   ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-05 20:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-05 22:22                       ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-05 23:19                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-05 23:22                           ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-06 13:51                       ` Jeff King
2016-12-06 17:53                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-06 18:10                           ` Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                             ` [PATCH v2] jk/http-walker-limit-redirect rebased to maint-2.9 Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                               ` [PATCH v2 1/6] http: simplify update_url_from_redirect Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                               ` [PATCH v2 2/6] http: always update the base URL for redirects Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                               ` [PATCH v2 3/6] remote-curl: rename shadowed options variable Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                               ` [PATCH v2 4/6] http: make redirects more obvious Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:24                               ` [PATCH v2 5/6] http: treat http-alternates like redirects Jeff King
2016-12-06 18:25                               ` [PATCH v2 6/6] http-walker: complain about non-404 loose object errors Jeff King
2016-12-06 22:24                         ` [PATCH v7 4/4] transport: add from_user parameter to is_transport_allowed Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:00           ` [PATCH v8 0/5] transport protocol policy configuration Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:00             ` [PATCH v8 1/5] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:00             ` [PATCH v8 2/5] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:01             ` [PATCH v8 3/5] http: always warn if libcurl version is too old Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:01             ` [PATCH v8 4/5] http: create function to get curl allowed protocols Brandon Williams
2016-12-02  0:01             ` [PATCH v8 5/5] transport: add from_user parameter to is_transport_allowed Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40             ` [PATCH v9 0/5] transport protocol policy configuration Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40               ` [PATCH v9 1/5] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40               ` [PATCH v9 2/5] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40               ` [PATCH v9 3/5] http: always warn if libcurl version is too old Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 16:01                 ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 17:56                   ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40               ` [PATCH v9 4/5] http: create function to get curl allowed protocols Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 16:03                 ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 18:00                   ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-14  1:40               ` [PATCH v9 5/5] transport: add from_user parameter to is_transport_allowed Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 16:40                 ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 20:13                   ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 20:33                     ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 21:12                       ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 21:58                         ` Brandon Williams
     [not found]                       ` <CAP3OtXiOPbAkr5Mn+5tEmZZAZzJXQ4CvtpHCg=wt+k-bi6K2vA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <CAP3OtXhH++szRws20MaHt-ftLBMUJuYiTmfL50mOFP4FA4Mn6Q@mail.gmail.com>
2016-12-14 22:52                           ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 20:37                     ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 20:41                       ` Jeff King
2016-12-14 20:50                         ` Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39               ` [PATCH v10 0/6] transport protocol policy configuration Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 1/6] lib-proto-disable: variable name fix Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 2/6] http: always warn if libcurl version is too old Brandon Williams
2016-12-15  0:21                   ` Jeff King
2016-12-15 17:29                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 3/6] transport: add protocol policy config option Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 4/6] http: create function to get curl allowed protocols Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 5/6] transport: add from_user parameter to is_transport_allowed Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 22:39                 ` [PATCH v10 6/6] http: respect protocol.*.allow=user for http-alternates Brandon Williams
2016-12-14 23:25                 ` [PATCH v10 0/6] transport protocol policy configuration Junio C Hamano
2016-12-15  0:22                 ` Jeff King

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