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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Vegard Nossum" <vegard.nossum@oracle.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"Quentin Casasnovas" <quentin.casasnovas@oracle.com>,
	"Shawn Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fetch: use "quick" has_sha1_file for tag following
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 14:59:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161014185953.k4b5xwihlgvxurjc@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqfunyzv6f.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > So it's certainly better. But 7500 packs is just silly, and squeezing
> > out ~400ms there is hardly worth it. If you repack this same case into a
> > single pack, the command drops to 5ms. So yes, there's close to an order
> > of magnitude speedup here, but you get that _and_ another order of
> > magnitude just by repacking.
> 
> "7500 is silly" equally applies to the "quick" (and sloppy, if I am
> reading your "Failing in this direction doesn't make me feel great."
> correctly) approach, I think, which argues for not taking either
> change X-<.

I wouldn't quite agree that they're the same. 7500 packs is silly
because a bunch of _other_ things are going to get equally or more slow
before the prepare_packed_git() slowdown is noticeable. And it's in your
power to clean up, and we should encourage users to do so.

Whereas having a bunch of unfetched tags is a state that may linger
indefinitely, and be outside the user's control.

I _am_ open to the argument that calling reprepare_packed_git() over and
over doesn't really matter much if you have a sane number of packs. If
you tweak my perf test like so:

diff --git a/t/perf/p5550-fetch-tags.sh b/t/perf/p5550-fetch-tags.sh
index a5dc39f..7e7ae24 100755
--- a/t/perf/p5550-fetch-tags.sh
+++ b/t/perf/p5550-fetch-tags.sh
@@ -86,7 +86,7 @@ test_expect_success 'create child packs' '
 		cd child &&
 		git config gc.auto 0 &&
 		git config gc.autopacklimit 0 &&
-		create_packs 500
+		create_packs 10
 	)
 '
 

you get:

Test            origin            quick                 
--------------------------------------------------------
5550.4: fetch   0.06(0.02+0.02)   0.02(0.01+0.00) -66.7%

Still an impressive speedup as a percentage, but negligible in absolute
terms. But that's on a local filesystem on a Linux machine. I'd worry
much more about a system with a slow readdir(), e.g., due to NFS.
Somebody's real-world NFS case[1] was what prompted us to do 0eeb077
(index-pack: avoid excessive re-reading of pack directory, 2015-06-09).

It looks like I _did_ look into optimizing this into a single stat()
call in the thread at [1]. I completely forgot about that. I did find
there that naively using stat_validity() on a directory is racy, though
I wonder if we could do something clever with gettimeofday() instead.
IOW, the patches there only bothered to re-read when they saw the mtime
on the directory jump, which suffers from 1-second precision problems.
But if we instead compared the mtime to the current time, we could err
in favor of re-reading the packs, and get false positives for at most 1
second.

[1] http://public-inbox.org/git/7FAE15F0A93C0144AD8B5FBD584E1C5519758FC3@C111KXTEMBX51.ERF.thomson.com/

> I agree that the fallout from the inaccuracy of "quick" approach is
> probably acceptable and the next "fetch" will correct it anyway, so
> let's do the "quick but inaccurate" for now and perhaps cook it in
> 'next' for a bit longer than other topics?

I doubt that cooking in 'next' for longer will turn up anything useful.
The case we care about is the race between a repack and a fetch. We
lived with the "quick" version of has_sha1_file() everywhere for 8
years. I only noticed the race on a hosting cluster which puts through
millions of operations per day (I could in theory test the patch on that
same cluster, but we actually don't do very many fetches).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-14 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 22:30 Huge performance bottleneck reading packs Vegard Nossum
2016-10-12 22:45 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-13  7:17   ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-13 14:50     ` Jeff King
2016-10-12 23:01 ` Jeff King
2016-10-12 23:18   ` Jeff King
2016-10-12 23:47     ` Jeff King
2016-10-13  9:04       ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-14  9:35         ` Jakub Narębski
2016-10-13  7:20   ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-13 15:26     ` Jeff King
2016-10-13 16:53       ` [PATCH] fetch: use "quick" has_sha1_file for tag following Jeff King
2016-10-13 17:04         ` Jeff King
2016-10-13 20:06           ` Jeff King
2016-10-14 17:39             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-14 18:59               ` Jeff King [this message]
2016-10-17 17:30                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-10-18 10:28                   ` Jeff King
2016-10-13 18:18       ` Huge performance bottleneck reading packs Vegard Nossum
2016-10-13 20:43         ` Jeff King
2016-10-14  6:55           ` Vegard Nossum
2016-10-14 19:00             ` Jeff King

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